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Rajahadmin
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"Imulux situation update.."
 
It was noted last night that four "guest" testimonial messages in these forum threads below actually originated from "Imulux President's" Cable modem IP address as shown by the server logs. Those messages have been deleted. A detailed explaination along with the removed text can be found at http://www.racoon.com/herpes/Imulux/

We now return you to your regular forum and apologize for the inconvenience.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
Imulux situation update.. [View All] Rajahadmin Oct-26-06 TOP
  RE: Imulux situation update.. Della Oct-26-06 1
     RE: Imulux situation update.. B Oct-26-06 2
         If that's what he did, then... Rajahadmin Oct-26-06 3
             RE: If that's what he did, then... PDE Oct-26-06 10
             You are just an idiot pde Oct-26-06 11
  RE: Imulux situation update.. dave Oct-26-06 4
     Nice try. Rajahadmin Oct-26-06 5
         RE: Nice try. Yoshi2me Oct-26-06 6
  RE: Imulux situation update.. Jimmy Oct-26-06 7
     Hello, Jimmy.. I'm expecting Don and Dan soon, too.. Rajahadmin Oct-26-06 8
         RE: Hello, Jimmy.. I'm expecting Don and Dan soon, too.. Don Oct-26-06 12
  RE: Imulux situation update.. Imulux President Oct-26-06 9
     Enough spamming. howladmin Oct-26-06 13

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Della
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Oct-26-06, 12:25 PM (CDST)
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1. "RE: Imulux situation update.."
In response to message #0
 
BWAA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAHAHAHA.

~Della

You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call "failure" is not the falling down, but the staying down.
- Mary Pickford


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B
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Oct-26-06, 02:37 PM (CDST)
 
2. "RE: Imulux situation update.."
In response to message #1
 
   Well...if thats true, that sucks....but still I am leaning towards the optimistic and after talking and emailing with Dr. Stoneburner, I am going to assume these were stories from his past that he is putting out there that has happened (I hope that someone wouldnt misrepresent for the mere sake of making money...wow...that would really suck...not naive...just trying to give the benefit of the doubt based on actually corresponding with him and seeming genuinely wanting to help). Anyways, I hope that people like pleaseguideme is a success story, so that it can add to the validity of Imulux....if not....oh frickin well...on to the next...


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Rajahadmin
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3. "If that's what he did, then..."
In response to message #2
 
he should have said so instead of pretending to be someone else. Any remaining shreds of credibility have evaporated in my opinion.

See http://imulux.googlepages.com , too.

I hope you all find that your symptoms disappear. I don't want anyone uncomfortable with herpes, but I don't want people taken advantage of either.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain


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PDE
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Oct-26-06, 09:13 PM (CDST)
 
10. "RE: If that's what he did, then..."
In response to message #3
 
   >he should have said so instead of pretending to be someone
>else. Any remaining shreds of credibility have evaporated in
>my opinion.
>
>See http://imulux.googlepages.com , too.
>
>I hope you all find that your symptoms disappear. I don't
>want anyone uncomfortable with herpes, but I don't want
>people taken advantage of either.
>
>"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and
>astound the rest." - Mark Twain


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pde
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Oct-26-06, 09:24 PM (CDST)
 
11. "You are just an idiot"
In response to message #3
 
   LAST EDITED ON Oct-26-06 AT 09:40 PM (CDST) by Rajah (admin)
 
Hey Dumb S***!!!

Personal attacks and name calling such as this are not permitted on these forums. The remainder of the text of this rant has been removed.


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dave
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Oct-26-06, 05:33 PM (CDST)
 
4. "RE: Imulux situation update.."
In response to message #0
 
   Dear Rajah,
I see that my message was removed and i want you to know that I'am real. I'am not paid to do this by Imulux. Dr.Stonebuner asked me if i would respond to you directly here and copy my original testimonial here.

Sincerely yours,
Dave


9. "RE: Imulux Is Just Another Scam"
In response to message #0
Dear Imulux Scam,
I don't think so. I had a bad case of Herpes Zoster 3 years ago. The original outbreak was on my lower back and the pain is what prompted me to see my doctor. He diagnosed Herpes Zoster and prescribed Acyclovir but did tell me that it was late in the cycle and might not work for me. The break out had occurred 2 weeks before. The lesions did clear but the pain remained (PHN) and my doctor offered me various pain medications for comfort. I did ok with the bouts of pain for the next three months when I had a second attack on my stomach. I went to my doctor right away and he again prescribed antivirals. This time the stomach lesion cleared up within a few days and I experienced no pain in the lesion site. I still had a nagging pain in my back but I was sure I was going to be well. About two weeks later my back began getting worse even though there was no lesion or outbreak, just a scar from the original outbreak. Again he put me on pain killers. Over the next year or so the pain got worse and worse even with heavy duty pain killers.

Ultimately I lost my job because of lost time at work, sitting home in major pain. With the pain killers I seemed to be working in a daze and my performance on the job was poor. I lost my wife of 17 years because of my irritable attitude, she moved in with her mother. Even friends began to avoid me. I turned to street drugs to help with the pain and was cited with DWI. My life was a shambles with no hope.

I ran into an old friend that told me he had participated in a herpes clinical study in Nevada a few year back and with his help I contacted East Park Research. They were the sponsors of the trial done there. With their help I found Imulux.

Imulux told me that the treatment for post herpetic neuraligia had to be performed by a nurse or doctor as the home treatment would work only with skilled hands.

I finally contacted Dr. Stoneburner who spent more than an hour on the phone explaining the special protocol to my wife who is an RN. She performed the protocol with Dr. Stoneburners telephone assistance and I am here to tell you that my pain was gone immediately. It has been over a year now without another bout of pain or an outbreak. In my mind Dr. Stoneburner went above and beyond. I believe that he really does care. IMULUX IS NOT A SCAM.

My wife has moved back in with me and I got my old job back. We now have a future. Imulux saved my life!!!!!

Some people are good people and actually want to help.


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Rajahadmin
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Oct-26-06, 06:43 PM (CDST)
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5. "Nice try."
In response to message #4
 
"Dave" or Jon or whoever you are. Since the original "testimonial" was posted via Dr. Stoneburner's cable modem in Sarasota under your name, just like the three other ones, I'm afraid that all credibility in these "testimonials" is gone, at least for me. I can't speak for others and everyone else should make up their own minds.

The only question about your miraculous cure is that you didn't mention whether you got your pickup truck and dog back, too.

I'm not buying it, nor am I buying any future Imulux miracle stories either regardless of where they come from.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain


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Yoshi2me
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Oct-26-06, 06:54 PM (CDST)
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6. "RE: Nice try."
In response to message #5
 
I'm not buying it either Raj.. it's all a scam.

Angela

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Jimmy
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Oct-26-06, 07:13 PM (CDST)
 
7. "RE: Imulux situation update.."
In response to message #0
 
   Dear Rajah,

My name is Jimmy. I did correspond with Dr. Stoneburner and gave him permission to post my testimonial. I am not a member but would like to become one. If anyone would like more details of my experience with Imulux they can contact me at clemrod4@msn.com

Sincerely yours,

Jimmy


Dear Disappointed,
I am surprised to hear about your experience with Dr. Stoneburner. My overall experience could not have been better.

I met Dr. Stoneburner in 2001 through Dr. Orhon. Dr. Orhons office told me about a clinical trial he was investigating for a new protocol on herpes. I suffered almost continuous outbreaks of genital herpes. Sometimes I would go a few weeks without an outbreak but usually as one would clear up another would hit with a vengeance. I sighed up for the clinical study and within 2 days of treatment I had another outbreak. I had pinned high hopes on what Dr. Orhon and Dr. Stoneburner told me should happen. I, like you was very disappointed and even angry. I left the clinical trial and refused to do any follow-up appointments.

Dr. Stoneburner contacted me about a week later and explained that sometimes individuals may harbor more than one virus in their system. He kept insisting that he wanted to help me. He told me that he was going to send me additional treatment supplies and asked me to at least try again at home. I tried the second treatment with the next outbreak and it did clear up faster than usual. Two weeks later I had another outbreak on my lips that was quite painful. Again Dr. Stoneburner asked that I do another oral treatment which also cleared up very fast.

Well Disappointed that was 5 years ago. I have not had even another hint of an outbreak anywhere since then. If it wasn't for the insistance of Dr. Stoneburner I am sure I would still be suffering today. When Dr. Stoneburner says he wants to help; you can believe him. Don't give up because if there is a way he will help you.


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Rajahadmin
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8. "Hello, Jimmy.. I'm expecting Don and Dan soon, too.."
In response to message #7
 
What I said to "Dave" applies to you, too, there in Sarasota. Dr. Stoneburner lost his credibility here because he represented himself as you without being up-front about it.

BTW, how are all your MLM "business opportunities" on the Internet going?

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain


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Don
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Oct-26-06, 10:40 PM (CDST)
 
12. "RE: Hello, Jimmy.. I'm expecting Don and Dan soon, too.."
In response to message #8
 
   This is Don.

Maybe Dr.Stoneburner made a mistake by the way he submitted our comments, but I want to make it clear that I personally submitted my comments to him and told him to feel free to put it on his web page
or use my comments for advertising.

Hopefully, my comments might help clarify for an individual with either Shingles or Herpes as well as the individuals who feel that I don't exist or that Imulux is a scam.

Since I have been a professional psychologist most of my life, I will not get into unprofessional comments. I hope that individuals will read my comments with an open mind. I welcome anyone to contact me. If you want to contact me and personally talk to me by phone, then all I ask is that you contact Imulux by email and ask them to have me call you. I will pay for the phone call. Also, give me a specific time frame to call. I will not give my phone number or email out since there are so many destructive individuals who use the internet to be hostile in sending virus and threats, etc.

I don't want to be defensive, but I really don't understand why no one is willing to believe the other two individuals. Especially, since the one individual even listed his email address. As I stated above, I am not that trusting to give out my phone number or email address.

I am from Indiana and a friend in Nashville, TN told me about Imulux and gave me the web page address.

I am 65 years of age and semi-retired. Approximately five weeks ago on a Thursday I noticed a sore on my head. I couldn't see it, but it sure did hurt. The next day I noticed small bumps on my cheek. When I got up on Saturday morning my face had larger bumps and my wife thought I had poison ivy. Never had it before, so why now. Except I had been working outside clearing a fence line. She insisted that I go to the doctor since it was close to my eye.

I finally gave in an went a see a "Doc in a Box" (as I call them) since my regualar physician was out on Saturday.

The medical doctor after examining me for a several minutes diagnosed me as having Shingles. He said he wanted to put me on medication immediately and that I would have the blisters on my face for at least three (3) to five (5) weeks, if not longer. That I would experience more pain within the next several hours as the Shingles spread over my face.

On Sunday is when I talked to my friend and he gave me the web address for Imulux. He also said there was a phone number I could call to order the product. I got on the web site immediately and looked it over. I noticed there were two individuals who actually listed their phone numbers if individuals wanted to talk to them about the use of Imulux. I called both, but one was not home and one was involved in a TV commerical, but took the time to talk to me. He said that it was unbelieveable, that it worked for him and suggested that I give it serious consideration.

Later I called the phone number of Imulux and I was suprised when Dr. Stoneburner answered. I asked several questions and told him I would probably order the product. I kept remembering my friend who actually had Shingles for one year and lost his job. He had been in a lot of pain and could not wear his shirt. The outbreak was on his chest and back. He also had to go to physical therapy because of losing muscle tone in his one arm that was affected. I had another friend who had it for approximately 7 months and lost some muscle tone as well. He told me he was miserable with pain and disconfort. No way did I want to suffer for that length of time or not go out to a movie, to eat or visit friends.

An hour later I placed my order over the internet. Dr. Stoneburner said he would sent it out Monday morning and I would receive it Tuesday. Also, to call him if I had any questions. He suggested that my wife apply the procedure since I could not see the scab on my head and might have difficulties with certain areas of my face.

On Tuesday I was feeling very bad and slept most of the day in my chair. In fact I put a note on my door to tell the postman to open the door and leave it on the floor. About 3:30 that afternoon the postman came in an had to wake me up to get my signature.

As soon as the postman left I went back to sleep. My wife works as a special courier and her work hours vary. She got home that evening around 7 pm. We immediately went into the bathroom and she read the direction and started the procedure. She had to scrap open the scabs and apply the topical medication. After that she applied the light source.

We had to do my head first and my face second. The outbreak was on my cheek, chin, around my mouth, around my eye and half way up my forehead by this time. The second application was applied to the facial area. Within 5 minutes of the second application I was totally free of all pain. The next morning or a few hours later I could actually see the healing process working on my cheek and chin. Within 7 days all of the scabs were gone (except two very small ones--the size of a pencil head) and my face was completely healed. To say the least I became a spokes person for Imulux.

There is no reason for a person to have to experience the pain, disconfort and embarrasement associated with Shingles or Herpes since Imulux is available.

I personally hope that my comments will remain on this forum and if anyone wants to talk to me and ask questions, then please contact Imulux.

Dr. Stoneburner called to see how I was doing after the application and emailed and contacted me again as a follow-up. I really appreciated his kindness, professional attitude and the fact he cares. Not very many professionals will do follow-up calls.

Also, I referred a lady who has had Shingles for over 8 months (as I remember) and she had healed, but was still experiencing severe pain.

Dr. Stoneburner would not sell her the medication until she went to her family doctor. He felt that the healing of the scabs had occured and that the doctor would need to apply the application of topical medication on the area of the initial outbreak. The doctor would have to make sure he remember where the initial outbreak took place. That way the process had a greater chance of curing and taking away her servere pain.

One last comment. I have been aware of a lot of scams. Mainly financial scams. They all have one thing in common. They give you a false information, such as, name, no phone number or physical address to trace them so they can run with the money. Dr. Stoneburner has been completely open with all types of personal and professional information.

I sincerely hope that this letter is taken with the impact that I have meant it to have....that individuals will not be so fast to judge, but to allow those who have truly experienced the procedure to be able to clarify and inform those who are IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE DUE TO SHINGLES OR HERPES. No one needs to suffer!!!

Don


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Oct-26-06, 08:46 PM (CDST)
 
9. "RE: Imulux situation update.."
In response to message #0
 
   Dear Rajah,
I sent you the below e-mail earlier today and just in case you did not receive it I thought I would post it here.
Thanks,
Dr. Stoneburner

Dear Rajah,

I respect you and your forum, as it has been true to its nature. I have and will continue to always be true and professional in all my communications regarding Imulux. I write to you in response to your recent removal of 4 testimonials posted.

All four of the testimonials were in fact posted by myself via specific request from these individuals to post on their behalf.

I have contacted the individuals that wrote the 4 testimonials that you removed. I have asked them to sign on as members of the forum or at least respond as a guest. Two have replied to me so far and indicated that they will go directly to the forum and post their response to you. I am sure I will hear from the other two in the next day or so. I will have them also go to the forum and post their own reply.

Again I would like to say that I intend to remain professional here and would not resort to activities that are underhanded or "false testimonials." I receive lots of testimonials from individuals and have not posted them, as many people do not like to get involved with the public. In the instance of these 4 people, they were very enthusiastic and wanted to share their excitement with me and wanted others to know. As a means to share their story I received their request to post their emails for them on the forum.

I intend to be the example that others in this industry should follow. I stand by my product and am here to help people, I am not a man that hides or falsifies anything. I have and will continue to demonstrate this integrity. You have gotten to know me by now and know that I have not exemplified otherwise.

I would like to share with you some of my emails received today. I am here to help people.

Please let me know what else needs to be done for you to remove your negative comments about me.

Sincerely yours,

Dr. Stoneburner

"email: Turner
msg: Dr. Stoneburner,It's been over a month since I did the second treatment of the Imulux protocol. I have not had another outbreak as of today. However, I have seen several web blogs discredit you and Dr. Martin as to your validity of the Imulux protocol. I have one individual that seems determine to undermind you success. This is Angela on the web blog "Shut Up and Post". I read with amazement that she wouldn't even take you up on your offer of a free med pack. I have been posting on the her web blog and she just about ran me off with very heated argument. I hope you can take the time to post again and become part of the community by offering a question and answer time on her web blog for those who would like to ask some direct questions. I think it would be great pr. Just my two cents.Billaka friscokid737"

"Dr. Stoneburner,

I had a visit from my patient today. It has been about 2 weeks or so since
completed treatment for his genital warts. The warts are still visible but
are about 60% of the size originally. The smaller ones have dissappeared.
Oddly though he is now having touble with persisten sores. These appear one
at a time in the groin region and once popped like an acne they dissappear
in about 2 days where another develops, he said he has never suffered from
these until the treatment. They appear to be ingrown hairs as they grow
from the folicles but there never is an embedded hair. Could this be a side
effect or did we not fully treat the problem at hand just yet.. Any insite
would help....

Thanks
Ladd"

"Hi, Dr. Stoneburner,

Thanks for your response to my last question.

FYI, last week I developed some lesions (this was after having completed the Imulux treatment on 10/13). It happened that I was scheduled for my annual exam and asked my physician about them. She said they did not appear to be herpes, but were more likely due to my skin being irritated somehow. They had the appearance of slightly inflamed cracks in the skin. They were slightly painful but did not itch, unlike what I have experienced in the past during herpes outbreaks.

Nonetheless, I decided to use the second medpack you sent me.

I followed the same procedures as for the first pack, but did not get any fluorescence. Nor did the treatment speed the healing this time. The lesions finally responded to topical application of tea tree oil.

FYI, I tried to get my physician to swab the lesions for herpes but she refused -- she could see no clinical rationale and I did not mention my having used Imulux to her, as it's difficult to make a credible case for "alternative treatments" to conventional doctors.

Speaking of credibility, I see there's been some trouble on the HHP discussion forum.

http://racoon.com/dcforum/DCForumID7/594.html

This isn't going to help your cause (speaking here as a PR professional!)

Who posted the testimonials?

Best,"




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13. "Enough spamming."
In response to message #9
 
   I'm locking the thread because of repeated posts from the same IP addresses.

Contact Raj with questions or concerns about this action.

Howl


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