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"Response to the Imulux Open Letter.."
 
LAST EDITED ON Nov-14-06 AT 12:24 PM (CST)
 
This is a duplicate of a post that I made in response to GSlice's question in http://racoon.com/dcforum/DCForumID7/596.html Normally I don't like to see duplicate posts, but I didn't want this to get buried in a thread where it would not be seen as easily.


I'm just an Electrical Engineer with an interest in the herpes virus from being involved here on HHP since 1998. I have to admit that I have some real problems understanding some of the statements that have been made about how this treatment is supposed to work, but so do some other people who do have significant medical training.

Let's take a look at Dr. Stoneburner's open letter that he posted here on this forum in several threads and on other discussion forums elsewhere. Dr. Stoneburner's words are in green.

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Open Letter to all past, current and future users of the Imulux protocol.

My name is Dr. Jon Stoneburner, President and owner of Imulux Ltd.. I was appointed to the position of Professor of Energy Medicine at the Institute of Progressive Medicine in 2005 by its founder Dr. John Martin and have co authored published clinical trials that appear in Principals of Molecular Pathology. I have been appointed the position of “clinical investigator” buy the IRB (Institutional Review Board) under an IND (Investigational New Drug) permit granted by the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) in April of 2006.
The Institute of Progressive Medicine is a part of Progressive University. The institute doesn't appear to have it's own web site. Take a look at their website at http://progressiveuniversity.org . The domain name is registered to a residential address and the listed phone number is a cell phone. Clicking on the "About Us" link provides no information. The same is true of the "Contact Us" link. Actually that seems to be true of most of the links on the university home page. Where the Doctor says, "buy the IRB", I'm wondering if that's a Freudian slip since the IRB for that IND seems to be connected to his friend Dr. Martin at the "Center for Complex Infectious Diseases". For additional information regarding the people and organizations involved with Imulux, I suggest you also take a detailed look at http://imulux.googlepages.com

Regarding what an IND actually represents, Howl, back in August posted in part:

I checked out the FDA's website for relevant information
here

An IND can be filed for anything that meets certain criteria. As far as I can tell a company that wants to legally move a medical product across state lines MUST submit an IND. they have to start a clinical trial process, but (here's the catch) you can have an IND without having an effective product. They just have to have an ongoing study of the product. . .

On another page here the FDA says "The IND is not an application for marketing approval."

We can't assume an IND equal an effective product. I think they filed the IND to go through the motions, but I think their trials will fail because the science is total crap. Polarity of viruses . . .

Addendum: I can't find a searchable database of INDs. Maybe they are considered proprietary? Note: The FDA does say that INDs are, indeed, considered proprietary.

My questions about the university itself would be: What is the address of the campus and what is its phone number? With what accreditation body is the university accredited and when was it first accredited? How many undergraduate and graduate students currently attend classes? How many degreed professors are in the faculty?

I was interested in the clinical trials that are said to appear in the "Principals of Molecular Pathology", but googling that publication didn't return any hits other than a link to our Imulux thread here. Similarly, I googled for "Principles of Molecular Pathology", with the correct spelling of principles and discovered a book with that title written by Anthony A. Killeen of the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. Perusing the covers, table of contents, and index produced no references to Imulux, Ultra-violet light or Stoneburner. I don't believe that this is the publication mentioned.


There has been a lot of talk in the herpes community regarding Imulux. I would like to clarify our claims and position on the Imulux protocol so that there is no misunderstanding.
Great!

IMULUX CLAIM
No one on the face of the planet can claim to have a "cure" for herpes but we at Imulux feel that we might have the closest thing to it.

Unfortunately a number of products and "protocols" claim just that, but I'm glad that Imulux doesn't.

- We claim that the Imulux protocol kills viruses allowing the body to form antibodies. Your immune system is what protects you from that point forward.

Actually live viruses cause the immune system to vigorously produce antibodies moreso than dead viruses, witness the successful live virusvaccines in use today such as the chickenpox vaccine.

ADDITIONAL INFO:
Science will agree with the following facts:

· ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT IS “HAZARADIOUS TO THE HEALTH OF VIRUSES”, they do not survive well in its presence.
Ultraviolet light is hazardous to a lot of organisms including human tissue, witness UV blocking sunscreens, etc.

· IF MEDICINE INJECTS DEAD VIRUSES INTO THE BODY THE BODY WILL FORM ANTIBODIES. (EXAMPLE; A FLU SHOT)

Some vaccines also use modified live viruses. Per my comment above, the live virus causes vigorous production of antibodies to a greater extent than dead ones. Bill Halford's research, reported here on HHP elsewhere, bears out that an attenuated live vaccine is very effective in studies he has done involving mice.

Scientists at Imulux have found a solution that allows ultraviolet light to pass through the skin unaltered in wavelength or intensity. We call this solution a “photon lending substance”. The substance involved is not a drug, medication, or strong chemical with hazardous side effects. In fact it is classified by the FDA as a class one Medical Device. This substance is readily absorbed by the virus and when exposed to ultraviolet light causes damage to the virus killing it. The light alone would damage the virus but the photon lending substance allows the light to enter the virus directly killing it. This is simply a form of energy medicine, no different than cold packs placed on an injured ankle. The cold helps the pain and swelling. (“Energy medicine”)
This is very interesting. I did some searching for “photon lending substance” and got no hits, although eventually this thread may show up for that term. I then searched for “photon lending” and discovered another of Dr. Stoneburner's websites http://www.phototherapyforherpes.com billing itself as: "THE WORLDS FIRST HOMEOPATHIC APPROACH TO PHOTOTHERAPY FOR HERPES." While I'll admit I'm not an expert on homeopathy, I fail to see how this treatment is related to the basic principles of homeopathy as I understand them.

On that phototherapyforherpes.com website, as well as other places, if I recall correctly, a patent is mentioned. It's patent #6,368,637 and is available to view online at http://patft.uspto.gov . In that patent documentation we learn the nature of the solution that is applied. Interesting reading. It's amazing what the USPTO will issue a patent for nowadays. You can get a patent on almost anything and don't have to prove it can actually work.


Published clinical trials have proven the following; (http://www.imulux.com/news.html)

I've taken a quick look at this news release. I was gratified to see that it is a pier review article. I'm assuming that means that someone took it down to the dock to read. (Pier, as in the nautical sense.)

Seriously, I'm sure that it was a typo and should have been typed as "peer review article". Peer reviewed articles are published in recognized journals such as the "Journal of the American Medical Society" or some other scientific publication where the articles are reviewed by the submitter's peers, meaning other experts in the field, prior to publication. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review for a detailed explanation of peer review. Try as I may, I've not found this article appearing anywhere in any journal.

Updated 2006-11-14: If you are interested in this product, please be sure to visit http://imulux.googlepages.com before you buy.

"Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain


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